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		<title>By: Oooooomonkey</title>
		<link>http://blackish.at/blog/2012/02/resurrection-of-an-appstore-salesman.html#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oooooomonkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just read both of your articles and it&#039;s pretty sad to hear how it works out for a lonely indie dev who clearly believes in his product and spends a lot of time making it to get such a small reward for it. 
I&#039;m one of those few fans who bought new orbit and love it, but in general that&#039;s because I&#039;m the type who doesn&#039;t bother with buying all the main stream crap that is churned out on the app store and the reason I play games on ios is because of small games made by indie devs. You always find a real gem hidden away made by one or two guys that has something totaly unique about it. It&#039;s finding these games that makes me love iOS gaming in general. 
About the AppStore pricing I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s apple who should be blamed or the big dev company&#039;s or even the customer? because there&#039;s so many games out there for 69p or $1 that most people just think that &quot;well if it&#039;s not 69p its a ripp off&quot; but I think that&#039;s partly ignorance as the games are so cheap and throw away type that no body thinks of the work that&#039;s gone into making it. 
Well I&#039;d rather pay that bit extra and risk finding another hidden gem instead of buying another version of angry birds or cut the rope, but sadly if that&#039;s what the masses want then that&#039;s what sells. 
Actually I was going to end there but thinking about it, one main reason is probably that most app store customers arnt real gamers, there just casual 5minute gamers or a &quot;ooo look everyone&#039;s playing it so I must play it&quot; types and id say that&#039;s a real problem because unless your making a casual game to apeal to the masses you cant win. 
Well that&#039;s my rant over. The article was a nice read and that&#039;s my view. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read both of your articles and it&#8217;s pretty sad to hear how it works out for a lonely indie dev who clearly believes in his product and spends a lot of time making it to get such a small reward for it.<br />
I&#8217;m one of those few fans who bought new orbit and love it, but in general that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m the type who doesn&#8217;t bother with buying all the main stream crap that is churned out on the app store and the reason I play games on ios is because of small games made by indie devs. You always find a real gem hidden away made by one or two guys that has something totaly unique about it. It&#8217;s finding these games that makes me love iOS gaming in general.<br />
About the AppStore pricing I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s apple who should be blamed or the big dev company&#8217;s or even the customer? because there&#8217;s so many games out there for 69p or $1 that most people just think that &#8220;well if it&#8217;s not 69p its a ripp off&#8221; but I think that&#8217;s partly ignorance as the games are so cheap and throw away type that no body thinks of the work that&#8217;s gone into making it.<br />
Well I&#8217;d rather pay that bit extra and risk finding another hidden gem instead of buying another version of angry birds or cut the rope, but sadly if that&#8217;s what the masses want then that&#8217;s what sells.<br />
Actually I was going to end there but thinking about it, one main reason is probably that most app store customers arnt real gamers, there just casual 5minute gamers or a &#8220;ooo look everyone&#8217;s playing it so I must play it&#8221; types and id say that&#8217;s a real problem because unless your making a casual game to apeal to the masses you cant win.<br />
Well that&#8217;s my rant over. The article was a nice read and that&#8217;s my view. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://blackish.at/blog/2012/02/resurrection-of-an-appstore-salesman.html#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Android is hungry for decent games.  It is a mistake to ignore the &quot;other half&quot; of the market.  Just buy GalaxyS or S2, and maybe 1 popular tablet.  My game lags on the overcrowded App Market, but sells 10x on Android.  It is a numbers game and you should pay to play in both huge markets.  Use Unity to its maximum!  Good luck to you!  
By the way, i envy your art skills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android is hungry for decent games.  It is a mistake to ignore the &#8220;other half&#8221; of the market.  Just buy GalaxyS or S2, and maybe 1 popular tablet.  My game lags on the overcrowded App Market, but sells 10x on Android.  It is a numbers game and you should pay to play in both huge markets.  Use Unity to its maximum!  Good luck to you!<br />
By the way, i envy your art skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blackish.at/blog/2012/02/resurrection-of-an-appstore-salesman.html#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting read, the first post too. And congratulations on getting featured. I heard about New Orbit listening to the German Fanboys podcast today and immediately bought it :)

I wonder, though, if what you&#039;ve written here also applies to business and productivity apps. From my own experience as an App Store customer, the top 10 lists don&#039;t interest me very much in these categories. If I&#039;m looking for something specific - and in these categories I&#039;d imagine most people are - I search. I also check out apps that I read about on blogs or hear about on Twitter. But for games, I think you&#039;re right. Unless I hear or read about an app by chance, I just scan the top 30-50 and see what looks interesting.

From what I&#039;ve read on other sites, the way to go for games seems to more and more be the Freemium model. Have you considered going free and adding in-app purchases? Maybe you could launch additional levels or power-ups or something as in-app purchases. Financially, consumables are probably the way to go, so maybe you could offer, I don&#039;t know, 100 speed boosts or something for $0.99. Not that I&#039;d buy it, but from what I see in the wild there are actually people who buy such things ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting read, the first post too. And congratulations on getting featured. I heard about New Orbit listening to the German Fanboys podcast today and immediately bought it :)</p>
<p>I wonder, though, if what you&#8217;ve written here also applies to business and productivity apps. From my own experience as an App Store customer, the top 10 lists don&#8217;t interest me very much in these categories. If I&#8217;m looking for something specific &#8211; and in these categories I&#8217;d imagine most people are &#8211; I search. I also check out apps that I read about on blogs or hear about on Twitter. But for games, I think you&#8217;re right. Unless I hear or read about an app by chance, I just scan the top 30-50 and see what looks interesting.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read on other sites, the way to go for games seems to more and more be the Freemium model. Have you considered going free and adding in-app purchases? Maybe you could launch additional levels or power-ups or something as in-app purchases. Financially, consumables are probably the way to go, so maybe you could offer, I don&#8217;t know, 100 speed boosts or something for $0.99. Not that I&#8217;d buy it, but from what I see in the wild there are actually people who buy such things ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://blackish.at/blog/2012/02/resurrection-of-an-appstore-salesman.html#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concerning Android: Android doesn&#039;t matter. It just doesn&#039;t, at least not when it&#039;s about earning some cash. Android is cluttered version wise, so it costs a lot of time to develop and for testing. The devices are inconsistent in performance and screen sizes, which takes additional time to develop for. Then there&#039;s the user base of Android: People who want to buy cheap phones because they can&#039;t (or don&#039;t want to) cash out 500 bucks for a smartphone with an Apple on the back. Sure, there&#039;s a bunch of geeks and nerds who buy Android to make a point and because they really think it&#039;s actually better, but don&#039;t rely on them to make a buck from your game. (Geek Android users are like the Linux fans of the last two decades: They are there, keep it alive, but no one makes a serious buck on them.)
Then there&#039;s the multitude of different stores, some of them are whole lot worse than the App Store when it comes to dev-friendlieness. Ever tried to sell something through Amazon&#039;s app marketplace? Don&#039;t even try. Basically, you&#039;ll be at Amazon&#039;s mercy. They take the right to change description texts, keywords and prices as they see fit. Apple&#039;s 70% cut and their review procedures look pretty friendly and down-to-earth in comparison to Amazon&#039;s way to do business. And Google&#039;s marketplace is nothing more than an unorganized pile of crap, your game will be lost in there even more than it ever did in the App Store.
And then there&#039;s the final nail in Android&#039;s coffin: It&#039;s way too easy to install stolen apps. I&#039;ve heard from a considerable amount of devs that knew from analytics that thousands of people play their games, only that they sold just a few hundred copies in total.

The truth is, Apple&#039;s App Store works. It just does. It&#039;s a perfectly fine market place to sell your software at. But col000r said it himself: It was a whole lot easier three years ago, because there wasn&#039;t a lot of competition going on.
The only thing that Apple does wrong is that they approve every piece of shit that gets submitted to them, no matter how good it is. But then again: What if they didn&#039;t? I can almost hear the angry mob crying &quot;censorship&quot; and &quot;unfair policy&quot;. Apple simply has no choice.

One could argue that the mistake was to endorse a price as low as 99 cents. People now think it&#039;s possible to produce content for that kind of money, but it isn&#039;t. And for everyone who thinks its easy for EA and the like to produce content for a buck a shot and forcefully push to a black bottom line by throwing shitloads of money into advertising: They have to fight just as hard as we indy devs do. For every Tetris they have in the store there&#039;s a couple of games that&#039;s not even in the top 50. I know, most of us would be happy beyond believe if we could sustain a sales rank that high for just a few weeks, but EA is not a tiny company. They&#039;re having just as a hard time as we do to survive, only they also need to pay wages for a huge workforce.

In the end, it boils down to having prime content, a prime quality product. It&#039;s actually that easy. I can understand col000r&#039;s disappointment first hand. I have been there, I have done that, I had to learn the very same lessons. But it doesn&#039;t help your bottom line to be angry at others that your game doesn&#039;t sell. It&#039;s everybody&#039;s own fault. It&#039;s simply not reasonable to think you could make a decent income on a product that doesn&#039;t really stand out in a marketplace that is overrun by tens of thousands of cheap fucks who all think they can get rich doing the next Angry Birds.

But to end this on a positive note: I also learned another lesson. If your game doesn&#039;t get bought by a whole lot of people anyway, those who do buy it because they like it. And those are willing to pay for content. If you can&#039;t make a living by sell in quantity, do it with quality. Raise the price to 2.99 or even 4.99 and explain why you did that in the description text. You&#039;ll see pretty soon that your sales won&#039;t slow down by much, but your bottom line will grow by a lot.

And then there&#039;s also other software genres that are not nearly as crowded as the games sector: Utilities, Healthcare and Fitness, Music - there&#039;s a whole bunch of ideas and concepts that haven&#039;t been done yet for the App Store. You don&#039;t need to make games to make money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning Android: Android doesn&#8217;t matter. It just doesn&#8217;t, at least not when it&#8217;s about earning some cash. Android is cluttered version wise, so it costs a lot of time to develop and for testing. The devices are inconsistent in performance and screen sizes, which takes additional time to develop for. Then there&#8217;s the user base of Android: People who want to buy cheap phones because they can&#8217;t (or don&#8217;t want to) cash out 500 bucks for a smartphone with an Apple on the back. Sure, there&#8217;s a bunch of geeks and nerds who buy Android to make a point and because they really think it&#8217;s actually better, but don&#8217;t rely on them to make a buck from your game. (Geek Android users are like the Linux fans of the last two decades: They are there, keep it alive, but no one makes a serious buck on them.)<br />
Then there&#8217;s the multitude of different stores, some of them are whole lot worse than the App Store when it comes to dev-friendlieness. Ever tried to sell something through Amazon&#8217;s app marketplace? Don&#8217;t even try. Basically, you&#8217;ll be at Amazon&#8217;s mercy. They take the right to change description texts, keywords and prices as they see fit. Apple&#8217;s 70% cut and their review procedures look pretty friendly and down-to-earth in comparison to Amazon&#8217;s way to do business. And Google&#8217;s marketplace is nothing more than an unorganized pile of crap, your game will be lost in there even more than it ever did in the App Store.<br />
And then there&#8217;s the final nail in Android&#8217;s coffin: It&#8217;s way too easy to install stolen apps. I&#8217;ve heard from a considerable amount of devs that knew from analytics that thousands of people play their games, only that they sold just a few hundred copies in total.</p>
<p>The truth is, Apple&#8217;s App Store works. It just does. It&#8217;s a perfectly fine market place to sell your software at. But col000r said it himself: It was a whole lot easier three years ago, because there wasn&#8217;t a lot of competition going on.<br />
The only thing that Apple does wrong is that they approve every piece of shit that gets submitted to them, no matter how good it is. But then again: What if they didn&#8217;t? I can almost hear the angry mob crying &#8220;censorship&#8221; and &#8220;unfair policy&#8221;. Apple simply has no choice.</p>
<p>One could argue that the mistake was to endorse a price as low as 99 cents. People now think it&#8217;s possible to produce content for that kind of money, but it isn&#8217;t. And for everyone who thinks its easy for EA and the like to produce content for a buck a shot and forcefully push to a black bottom line by throwing shitloads of money into advertising: They have to fight just as hard as we indy devs do. For every Tetris they have in the store there&#8217;s a couple of games that&#8217;s not even in the top 50. I know, most of us would be happy beyond believe if we could sustain a sales rank that high for just a few weeks, but EA is not a tiny company. They&#8217;re having just as a hard time as we do to survive, only they also need to pay wages for a huge workforce.</p>
<p>In the end, it boils down to having prime content, a prime quality product. It&#8217;s actually that easy. I can understand col000r&#8217;s disappointment first hand. I have been there, I have done that, I had to learn the very same lessons. But it doesn&#8217;t help your bottom line to be angry at others that your game doesn&#8217;t sell. It&#8217;s everybody&#8217;s own fault. It&#8217;s simply not reasonable to think you could make a decent income on a product that doesn&#8217;t really stand out in a marketplace that is overrun by tens of thousands of cheap fucks who all think they can get rich doing the next Angry Birds.</p>
<p>But to end this on a positive note: I also learned another lesson. If your game doesn&#8217;t get bought by a whole lot of people anyway, those who do buy it because they like it. And those are willing to pay for content. If you can&#8217;t make a living by sell in quantity, do it with quality. Raise the price to 2.99 or even 4.99 and explain why you did that in the description text. You&#8217;ll see pretty soon that your sales won&#8217;t slow down by much, but your bottom line will grow by a lot.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s also other software genres that are not nearly as crowded as the games sector: Utilities, Healthcare and Fitness, Music &#8211; there&#8217;s a whole bunch of ideas and concepts that haven&#8217;t been done yet for the App Store. You don&#8217;t need to make games to make money.</p>
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		<title>By: col000r</title>
		<link>http://blackish.at/blog/2012/02/resurrection-of-an-appstore-salesman.html#comment-136</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know, to be honest. I heard people on Android don&#039;t buy much, but I guess things are starting to change now with the Kindle Fire and everything. I haven&#039;t looked into developing for Android, mainly because I&#039;m afraid of the fragmentation. - It&#039;s hassle enough to test with all those iOS devices, I don&#039;t think I could even afford all the Android phones and tables... And releasing without having tested it on the actual hardware sounds pretty scary...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, to be honest. I heard people on Android don&#8217;t buy much, but I guess things are starting to change now with the Kindle Fire and everything. I haven&#8217;t looked into developing for Android, mainly because I&#8217;m afraid of the fragmentation. &#8211; It&#8217;s hassle enough to test with all those iOS devices, I don&#8217;t think I could even afford all the Android phones and tables&#8230; And releasing without having tested it on the actual hardware sounds pretty scary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://blackish.at/blog/2012/02/resurrection-of-an-appstore-salesman.html#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that it is very difficult to become a top-seller in the appstore. As you said -big companys are investing much money into advertising. You as a single-dev. you couldn&#039;t do such much effort. 

What do you think of the android platform for publishing software? Do you think that its easier for small devs threre?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is very difficult to become a top-seller in the appstore. As you said -big companys are investing much money into advertising. You as a single-dev. you couldn&#8217;t do such much effort. </p>
<p>What do you think of the android platform for publishing software? Do you think that its easier for small devs threre?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kingery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Kingery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for the update!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the update!</p>
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		<title>By: Death of an AppStore Salesman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Death of an AppStore Salesman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I wrote this a few days after launch but didn&#8217;t publish it until now &#8211; Read Part 2 &#8220;Resurrection of an AppStore salesman&#8221; here.   Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Trackbacks are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I wrote this a few days after launch but didn&#8217;t publish it until now &#8211; Read Part 2 &#8220;Resurrection of an AppStore salesman&#8221; here.   Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Trackbacks are [&#8230;]</p>
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